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Ive fallen in love. I have shot the Impulse and wasnt impressed. As a side note, I have a Sako 85 from Cabelas. If so have they made any notable changes to this model over previous models? Those all sound like good options. Could you add another tier or two? Cries racism when pointed out that is an idiot. Plus, it uses an old-school sporter stock that just isnt what todays long-range shooter is looking for. If youre going to buy a Ruger American, know there are dozens of different configurations available. I\m relatively new to the channel & website, and it has quickly become a favorite of mine. That said, the polymer quality and stiffness are better than many. I am between a Bergara B-14 Hunter and the Weatherby Vanguard. Again not a spot of rust. Interesting comparison. Indeed, the Momentums bolt only travels 60 degrees from fully open to fully locked and vice-versa, whereas your typical 2-lug job requires a 90-degree throw. Thanks for doing great work. Actually, I like it a lot. I found barrel engraved with 6.5 Creedmore and read manual before use In this price range, manufacturers use very loose tolerances and have very poor quality control, so Im careful what I recommend. The Bergara Mountain 2.0, Kimber Mountain Ascent, Bergara Premier, Browning X-Bolt Pro, Seekins Havac, Weatherby Mark V, Fierce Edge, Christensen Ridgeline, and others are all rifles Im familiar with. The stock feels really cheesy. The rifles are accurate, reliable, and built well. Your email address will not be published. Watch my full review of the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. Great review. Id like to see a comparison between all the weather resistant advertised rifles, quality of weather protection materials, pros and cons of the different coatings or metals. Do you have a suggestion for a backcountry hunting rifle that does well with heavy recoil? It seems to boast a sturdier stock. Its short, compact, lightweight, sinfully accurate with my handloads, feeds 100%, and adjustable so it fits me perfectly. Made in Italy? Alpha? I have not seen a semi-auto in 6.5 PRC, should I wait? Im going to let it cure for a day or so before testing it, if I still have an issue with slippage or it effects accuracy, I will switch out for new rings. Id pick the CVA Cascade from that group. The 300 win mag barrel twist is a little slow, but if you arent going to handload, it should shoot up the 200 grain bullets in factory Ammo just fine. Thanks. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. My builder said (because of the bad Winchester brass) he would not recommend the 68 Western. Of all the rifles I own, if you just said Grab a rifle and go hunting without any more specifics of where Id be hunting or what Id be hunting, Id grab that rifle. Keep up the great work. it just feels right. Seller: Ammo And Arms. Your reviews and articles are very helpful for us folks that dont have a big gun shop within 150 miles! Its that or the ruger American in 6.5. Best 5 shot group was .320 so I wouldnt knock the compass for a budget rifle. Like I said not sure what you tested it in, but I just wanted to let you know. I recommend getting this Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor if youll be hunting deer-sized game (or smaller than deer), want to have tons of inexpensive ammo options, and if youll also be using it for target shooting. I have a slue of rifles in many calibers 22LR up to 338WM, except the 7mm mag. I have been eyeing the ruger go wild.I like the heavier barrel profile. I love that Fierce Reaper but would probably have to sell another nice gun to get it and not sure I quite want to do that. If you were to build a rifle what action would you use. Would like to buy a Tikka Super Varmint barrel and action with MDT chassis but am also considering Bergara UpR. Looks great. I really enjoy your reviews and opinions. Which takes of the other half of recoil . I also own a Savage 110 Ultralite in 6.5 PRC- fantastic accuracy, but I just could not warm up to the plasticy stock. The gun feels good in hand and the trigger feels great. Hi Jim, Dont get me wrong. My personal favorite elk cartridge is a 7mm Rem Mag. Available in six calibers, TTAG gave the $609 MSRP .308 Winchester flavor a test drive. Overall, I think the best three rifles under $1,000 are the Tikka T3X Lite, the Bergara B-14 Ridge, and the Weatherby Vanguard. Two shots were thrown right out of the group and the barrel was not yet even very warm. Required fields are marked *. Swelled and checkered grip areas are molded into both sides of the stock over the internal magazine and again at the beginning of the forearm section. I\m also looking at the Seekins Havak PH2? First let me say your videos are absolutely fantastic. It was made for them as a throw back to the Finbear (now Discontinued) Its chambered in 270. Is it like the other cheap stocks you mentioned I looked it up and the barrel profile is exactly the same for bigger calibers. Would love a Tikka, but your notes on them provide the info for not making the cut. I think in theory controlled feed is better, but they also generally dont feed well (or at all) if you try to feed by dropping one in, rather than mag feeding. As an Skandinavian hunter i must say we do have some different taste in rifles, and that is great. He lives outside of Austin, TX. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. Hello Jim, I reload, so Ive been able to work on the load. Leave the modern made junk guns to the young and inexperienced people which results in the good stuff out there being more plentiful for us old foxes that know what a quality gun is and what a reliable one is. I really have enjoyed watching your YouTube channel and reading some of your articles on backfire! Do you have any other recommendations or would you like to sell the Savage? or browning. Thanks for all of your vids and you helped me get my last two rifles with all the choices. Hes not huge. I\m looking for a good \all around\ big game hunting rifle (elk, whitetail/mule deer, and antelope mostly). The also Cerakote the barrel which lowers the need for oiling the metals on your gun, and protects it in rainy or otherwise wet conditions. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. The forend felt fat and a bit chunky, and the detachable mag looks like it could get in the way when carrying, hunting, using rests, etc. What do you think of the French after some time? I understood going into it that it was a boutique and emotionally motivated cartridge choice, but the performance and build quality is excellent. Floorplate, spring, and follower tilt out. It is still a preferred caliber in Scandinavia for big game. I was looking at the Tikka for a while but Im not crazy about the slower twist in .30-06. I would love to get your take or even see a review on it. I know you like the CVA Cascade, but there are 2 things very important to know about those! I am stuck between the tikka t3x and the Bergara b14. There was getting to the point where I found I needed better but thats not how the first few years took off. They seem to check a lot of the boxes Im looking in a rifle and seem to have a lot of bang for the buck for a rifle just over $500. I will be hunting suppressed from now on and want to keep my rifle as short as possible. Both have NO bolt lock when on safety. I verified it with factory ammo, Guaranteed 1 MOA accuracy, but probably beats that, Guaranteed 1 MOA. There is a nice Bavarian Sako but theres isnt much data on accuracy on the range with a scope. I have mostly x bolt now and really like them but dont think onyx chassis is made for brownings so thinking the tikka t3x but wanted your opinion. Jim, Great content on both the website and on Youtube. Mostly hand carried, thick timber and hills in foul weather. And have heard mostly good things on it, so I kinda think it was mostly a caliber issue for that gun. In this price range, this rifle appears to be a very good value. You never mentioned. The Elite series, added alongside the budget-priced original in 2020, did nothing to diminish those impressions. I mean, this is one heck of a tight group! Franchi designs some very good scatter guns, and this is their first rifle attempt. Which one do you recommend, God-bless you for being a second amendment supporter I will pray for you your wife and your family God-bless, Wow! Two of them shoot 270s and one in 25-06. Jim, In the case of the .308 Winchester tested here, its a 22-inch, cold hammer forged barrel with U.S.-standard 5/8-24 threads. Is there a far better option for the money? GSG, I always just hunted. This gun is for actually hunting in adverse conditions and not worrying about scratching it or damage. This rifle broke two scopes I highly recommend the Leupold which I have on it now .team this up with the Barnes TTPX BT. Fierce Reaper I just love it so much. If you just go in the store, they almost never seem to have any good chambering options. Can't see enough difference to make a difference. With a typical retail price of $549, the Franchi Momentum is a lot of Italian hunting rifle for not a lot of cash. The sub-$500 version of the CVA Cascade comes with just blued steel. Im down to the Savage 110 Ultralite and the Christensen Ridgeline. Really enjoy your content! And a nice walnut stock would have cost them a few more pennies to use. Very impressed. Franchi Momentum .350 Legend Threaded 24" Bbl FDE BA Rifle 41562. I cant say I love the idea of a polymer sling mount with a relatively thin wall to it, but its definitely more out-of-the-way than a protruding stud. Keep up the great work. Any information is greatly appreciated. Id like to know how the Sandman suppressor performed. I dont want it to feel pain or the anxiety of dying slowly. Both the Momentum Elite and the newer Tikka Veil are . I just cant keep myself from grabbing the Sig Cross. All good options, but Id go with the Cross if youll be using it for any backcountry hunting. Im considering a modern Win 70 as well. Do you have any experience or thoughts on the JTAC? It shoots some factory ammo sub moa as advertised but has been and uphill battle to get hand loaded 88grn eldm's to group consistent. Trigger: 2-4 lbs, adjustable, single stage A hammer fudged junk barrel that was obviously used. One issue that has come up with all three of their guns is having to check and tighten the front and rear action assembly screws. I too had nailed it down to the Savage or the Ruger American Rifle. Im looking for ANY rifle with a floor plate, metal, and wood but the only two I find are model 70, and browning. Unfortunately now I see it for $1700. Id probably go with the Bergara Wilderness Ridge. As a matter of fact these days it usually sucks. Their ammo is INSANELY expensive, so I wouldnt invest in a Weatherby chambering. Then I bought an Alaskan 338 Win Mag Laminate in Stainless. In fact, I did a whole video showing the limitations of the Ruger American. Vlad is typical progtard. What would you like to know? When will you be putting the Seekins HAVAK PH2 through its paces? I recently purchased the Momentum Elite in the 6.5 creedmoor and respectfully think an honourable mention for the under $1000 would be appropriate. Not impressed with the plastic trigger guard also because I have broken one on a different rifle and it was a pain in the rear to source. I saw you also mentioned something coming at Shotshow but did not see if you talked about this yet. enough shoulder for secure mounting. Thanks! A 60 degree bolt lift that makes second fast shots from the shoulder a complete impossibility. Its a push feed which means if you short stroke the bolt you can get a jam that I guarantee will take you half an hour to un-jam. Yeah, the Reaper is pretty awesome. Along with the detail you put into your reviews of new ammo like the 6.5 and now 7 PRC. My 2 favorite calibers are 270( I have 6 of them) and 300H&H ( one pre 64 Winchester Model 70 and one Cooper). Love you work and your research is unparalleled. Just my two cents, but would love to hear an honest review of these rifles. Thank you! Also, at least in my area, they are readily available which is a huge bonus right now. Im looking at my first hunter and precision rifle that I can take to the range once a month and go on 2 or 3 hunting trips per year (pig/deer) mostly in California or surrounding states. You should always spend your hard earned money on what *you* like, but the Franchi stock strikes me as an example of what the late Chuck Hawks called "Euro trash.". In your opinion, is the Fierce worth the extra you pay or does the Springfield give you more value for the money you spend. It doesnt snag or grab clothes but somehow its still plenty soft and grippy. A stock upgrade is also an option, Stockys is producing several different carbon fiber drop-in stocks for the Vanguard/Howa rifle line. One-Piece Picatinny Rail Quick and easy optics mounting. Definitely the most accurate rifle I have owned right out of the box. have since restocked it with a B&C M40, and will use it for long range targets and steel. Just easier to carry in hand, never a sling. The build quality was amazing, and shot sub MOA with factory Norma ammo. Esp in 7mm-08. Hi Jim, The trouble Im having wracking my brain over is caliber. Just doing a bit of research on the Momentum because the local gun store has a bunch on sale. Thanks. Momentum Elite - Franchi Firearms | Franchi Shotguns and Rifles Im really interested in them but can hardly find a proper review of them. If you are looking at that sub $1000 rifle check out the Bergara Wilderness Ridge (Mine was $850). Ill be curious to see them for myself, but Ive heard good things. After reading you, I am going to use them now for hunting. The only competitor would be a full custom on the amazing MDT HNT 26 chassis. Franchi Momentum .308 Win Threaded 22" Bbl Htr Gry BA Rifle 41533. Its a great rifle for heavier cartridges. The Howa is around $200-$300 cheaper than the Savage. $699.00. Love your videos and reviews thanks a ton. I personally prefer the Bergara B-14 Ridge, but they are all good options. I have narrowed my next purchase down to those two. But after that, its likely going to be a custom. Weatherby also makes it in some non Weatherby calibers. And all the great work you do! YOU SHOULD TEST THE SAKO S20 in 6.5 PRC OR THE SAKO BRANDS. In todays market, it needs a more modern stock design, carbon barrel, and premium trigger to be worth the price they are asking. My brother and another buddy bought one (223 and 22-250) because mine shot so well and they had similar results. Ultimately it still looks and feels like an inexpensive, plastic stock that youd expect to find on a budget hunting rifle. What is your opinion on the Edge vs Rival? Ill use my customized REM 700 in 300 win mag for elk. Hi Jim, I love your reviews and think you are the best reviewer I have come across. Its one of the best 3 out of 8 rifles we tested in this price range. You mentioned the seekins havoc, but not in detail. PS. Hey Jim, your videos are great not only on rifles, but optics too. High comb, rigid, modern stock lines. So where are you from originally and where are you now..Im thinking not the US. Ive never seen Sea Adler anywhere in the US, do you know if theyre imported? Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. Thanks. Id like to see how the Sauer 100 performs. Great review It just does everything reasonably well. Jim, Love your channel and have spent most likely 30 plus hours reviewing your videos. Franchi, a 150-year-old shotgun manufacturer, clearly felt it was high time an affordable Italian hunting rifle hit U.S. shores. Ruger Americans are fantastic. Jan 18, 2020 #3 C clockworkgator Id prefer 7mm-08, but 6.5 is the newest kid on the block. I stewed over it for a minute but he made me answer, and I said to go with the Tikka T3x Lite. that blew my mind that an OOB rifle would have that much contact. In front of the recoil pad, on the bottom of the Momentums shoulder stock, are two molded-in features: a hand groove grip area for holding the stock with ones support hand while shooting from a rest, and a recessed sling swivel mount. Iv shot most all I wish more gun writers would be as informative. FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE True Price: $ 816.99. Both have 3 lug bolts with the lugs integral with the rest of the bolt body 3. A friend of mine was trying to talk me into a Christensen arms Ridgeline FFT but from what you said about their QC in manufacturing I\m not sure I want to risk it. Thanks, I have looked all over and cant find out much about these. So if I review it and love my copy, Id be convincing people to buy one and they very likely may not have the same experience. Problem with the Savage 110 ultralight is the plastic magazine. As I completely dislike sporter pencil barrels. unloaded and 46.7 . 180 gr Remington tipped core lokt and its in the bullseye out to 400. In our testing, we had all of the guns chambered alike, but as soon as any of the reviewers shot the Tikka after shooting the other rifles, they all commented that the recoil felt heavier. The SIG Cross would be a best second choice. People harp on me for recommending the Weatherby Vanguard because its essentially the same thing as a Howa 1500, but costs more money. Question. Moreover, the firearm boasts an excellent light and smooth trigger. And dollar for dollar you could never purchase a rifle that guarantees you 1 moa back several years ago for the same relative cost. Might want to hold off a month or so. A shiny one. With them being two different price points, Id be interested in your thoughts on spending the extra amount on the waypoint. As Im new to the shooting world Im still undecided on a long range target rifle. Looks to me like an Apples to Oranges request. The Momentum loved Armscors 168 grain FMJs, though. Jim, And youre right about the cost of Weatherby ammo. I really like the stock design. Sako has major problems with there stocks , I have owned several finnlight 85s and the stock will get sticky , Its not if its when , Sako will not do anything about this issue , They blame it on det in insect spray , I had one still in the box that got sticky and they didnt have an answer for that , You can read about this issue online its everywhere , Browning took care of this problem when they had this issue , I will never buy another sako for this reason , Do your research before buying one. I load for better, but what would you choose? However, as Ive owned the Sig Cross for almost a year now, Im surprised by how frequently its the gun I reach for in the safe. They will be on sale at cabelas this next week, and I havent heard that much about them. I also like the Fierce Reaper and the Sako S20 for heavy-recoiling cartridges. I am looking into ordering a 20 Super Sniper chambered in .308 and was curious to know if you have had any experience with it? Its just tough to get excited about because it has no single stand-out feature. Im giving the Momentum an extra star above average for the polished, fluted bolt and all the checkered ergonomic areas on the stock that fancy it up a bit. I am over 50 now an i have owned and hunted 21 different rifles, that will be all brands from Rem 700, Browning , tikka, several Blasers and Sakos, Heym and some more. I just want an all around deer rifle that is easy to find ammo for. In regards to the Howa 1500 I got one in 300 PRC, it had a Houge stock, I installed a Bell & Carlson, put a Konos M30 on top and got a group the size of a 50 cent piece at a 100 yards. Franchi talks up the ergonomics of the Momentum big time on their website. Do you have any information on the Howa, or an opinion on which way I should. i have a momentum in .308. stock looks a bit odd, but handles my frame very well. I like the reviews on the CVA but the Bergara is hard to beat, the Terrain Wilderness is the one Im leaning towards. Price points on the ammo dont put them too far apart when searching on Ammoseek, usually within 5 bucks a box depending upon brand. Fastest/flattest 6.5 using 143 gun ELD-X bullets. Have you had any experience with the new fierce rage? Or is the lighter, cheaper, better looking cva more applicable? Its an EXCELLENT do-all caliber. See also Gluck. No doubt, it has s lot to offer. Christensen needs to improve its quality control in my opinion. On the range, the Franchi Momentum Elite Varmint is a bit larger and heavier compared to some of the thinner and shorter barreled Momentum rifles, coming in at 9 lbs., 6.4 ozs. From afar it looks pretty standard, but it does set itself apart in a few ways. Hi Jim love your content I was wondering if you had a chance to fire a Benelli lupo I own one and love it also have a Tikka tac t3x a Daniel Defense delta 5 pro a accuracy International at. It would be a tiny bit more expensive, but really not much. Fierce are not perfect but over all compared to everything else on the market there really hard to beat. Will be used for 100-500 yd plinking and occasional deer hunting. Its hard to find info anywhere on it. The Weatherby Vanguard threaded, Bergara B14, and Howa Carbon Stalker are all models Im researching more to try to come to a definitive decision.
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